"The question from the master is like a stick hitting, meant to break attachments. However, in the moment of not thinking of good or evil, it is not a dull emptiness. According to the Madhyamaka view, right at the moment of dependent arising, one directly sees its innate emptiness! This is neither annihilation nor the reality conceived by ordinary sentiments."
"What is called 'seeing emptiness' is to use ultimate wisdom to illuminate the conventional existence at the moment of dependent arising, penetrating its lack of inherent nature. This 'seeing' is not with the eyes nor with the mind, but an experiential knowledge beyond all theoretical debates."
"May I ask the master, if away from this wisdom, wouldn't the realization of the Zen sect become an indeterminate emptiness?"
Round two!
Sangjie's disciples brightened up in spirit.
Beautiful!
No wonder Master Beima Dunzhu can easily do what they can't, while solving such troubling problems, he throws the question back!